It's cool to hear about Jim being a great teacher. I've actually wanted to take an AMGA class but never been able to think it through. I've heard that some teachers for AMGA TRSM classes have the attitude that what they teach you is only good for you when you're doing big wall stuff. Kind of an elitist attitude you know. What is Jim like do you know?
Oh, and where did Matt and JB get their WFR?
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The AMGA TRSM course places a strong emphasis on setting up releasable-rappel/belayed-climbing rigs from the tops of climbs -- something rarely done in the RRG, where most guided TR climbs are set up from the bottom. Nevertheless, the training is applicable to many different types of climbing situations. And, much of it is directed toward getting your client climber out of common gumby predicaments, i.e. hauls, pickoffs, etc. Yes, some of the training applies to big walls, but also to all the other types of climbing we do down here.ElectricDisciple wrote:It's cool to hear about Jim being a great teacher. I've actually wanted to take an AMGA class but never been able to think it through. I've heard that some teachers for AMGA TRSM classes have the attitude that what they teach you is only good for you when you're doing big wall stuff. Kind of an elitist attitude you know. What is Jim like do you know?
Oh, and where did Matt and JB get their WFR?
Jim is very knowledgeable and confident but by no means an elitist. I can't speak for the others who took his training, but I found him to be tough, but fair and certainly an all around decent guy. For those wanting to learn more, he will take you out for "post graduate" training - something I find fun and worthwhile. Let Jim create a crisis problem for you to figure out a solution.
Matt and JB can tell you where they received their WFA or WFR training (either is acceptable for the TRSM cert.)
The Center for Wilderness Safety in Loveland, Ohio is offering a WFA April 20 - 22, 2007. Their WFR course has not yet been scheduled for 2007. WKU offered a course back in January of this year. You could check with them to see if they plan to do another one later. Also check with SOLO. They give courses at various locations around the Midwest. I believe they have one scheduled in MI in May.
Rick
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I was in the course with Matt and JB. Haven't took mine exam yet, waiting till April to get a little practice in. I definitely learned a lot of new things.
Thanks JB for the pics. It was probably the coldest 4 days I've spent outside. It may have been 20 degrees, but the wind chill was more like 8.
Had a great time though. Thanks to Jim for being an excellent teacher. I agree with JB and Rick. Anybody who is thinking about taking Jim's class, I would definitely recommend it.
Thanks JB for the pics. It was probably the coldest 4 days I've spent outside. It may have been 20 degrees, but the wind chill was more like 8.
Had a great time though. Thanks to Jim for being an excellent teacher. I agree with JB and Rick. Anybody who is thinking about taking Jim's class, I would definitely recommend it.
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EKU offers both WFA and WFR classes. I usually advertise them here. I'm sure my replacement will as well.
WFR coming up this summer in Berea, KY through EKU. June 14-22. Cost will be about $700 which includes housing.
WFA will be in November at the same location about 50 minutes south of Lex.
Both are through the Wilderness Medical Institute of NOLS and Landmark Learning.
Amy did a great job too! She'll pass whenever she decides to take it!
WFR coming up this summer in Berea, KY through EKU. June 14-22. Cost will be about $700 which includes housing.
WFA will be in November at the same location about 50 minutes south of Lex.
Both are through the Wilderness Medical Institute of NOLS and Landmark Learning.
Amy did a great job too! She'll pass whenever she decides to take it!
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Congrats Matt and JB on your cert! It is great to see you all raising the bar with guiding in the Red!
I have worked with Jim, and he is a great guy and has a vast knowledge of systems. As far as AMGA training only being for big wall, well; the great thing about the AMGA is it teaches tools, transitions, and decision making. These tools can then be adapted to any setting. They are big on staying away from protocol. The want you to make decisions based on the information that you know. As we all know, every climbing situation is different, this is where experience comes in. If you look at the AMGA pre-requisites they are very extensive.
It is great to see people stepping up to the plate! I would encourage any climber wanting to expand there climbing knowledge take a course from the AMGA or one of its certified members. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how much you learn!
I have worked with Jim, and he is a great guy and has a vast knowledge of systems. As far as AMGA training only being for big wall, well; the great thing about the AMGA is it teaches tools, transitions, and decision making. These tools can then be adapted to any setting. They are big on staying away from protocol. The want you to make decisions based on the information that you know. As we all know, every climbing situation is different, this is where experience comes in. If you look at the AMGA pre-requisites they are very extensive.
It is great to see people stepping up to the plate! I would encourage any climber wanting to expand there climbing knowledge take a course from the AMGA or one of its certified members. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how much you learn!
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