ok then im a 5.12 sport climber on a day with good friction if im at this certain crag with this certain belayer, otherwise you guys would just try to downgrade how hard i climb. gotta be specific
i heard that sonnie trotter made the first leashless ascent of kampsight. according to his ethic, he refuzed to grade the climb, but the consensus among the climbing community is that its at least 5.15 a+**/b-
well, of course he rapelled down from the top and took 7 gigabytes worth of hd footage of the climb, and then "studied it" by himself with a box of tissues for 3 days...