any forest service feedback on this?

[Steve]

I just assumed these were the meetings that Bill and Shannon always go to....

If you're refering to the Limits of Acceptable Change (LAC) meetings then naw I don't think this is the same thing at all. The LAC process engages the public on how to manage recration on the forest. Nothing done in secret at these meetings, joe blow citizen is encourged to attend.

[discojett]

The NPS, BLM and USFS are poorly under-funded. Thats the bottom line, but with a more environmentally-friendly congress, I wouldnt expect to see privatization or excess fees any time soon. Our taxes already take care of this stuff, the $$ is just not going where it should.

You can follow all the projects on the DBNF here...

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/boone/planning/ ... ndex.shtml

[Huggybone]

Looks to me like a simple case of corruption. If 85% of appropriated funds are withheld without even an explanation, someone should be doing jail time for fruadulent theft of about 131,750,000 dollars.

I would love to find info about this that comes from more than just this one guy.

[ynot]

You know, I here that "poorly funded" crap alot. How many million did the new visitor center and new bathrooms cost?

[JB]

You know, I here that "poorly funded" crap alot. How many million did the new visitor center and new bathrooms cost?

which is exactly why there is no money for more staffing or projects... often poorly managed minimal budgets.

[discojett]

which is exactly why there is no money for more staffing or projects... often poorly managed minimal budgets.

Or law enforcement, NEPA enforcement, and basic public lands management like oversight for the oil and gas induistry and illegal ATV routes that the agencies can't handle because of lack of staffing. Get on the ground, or do a little research. Yep, a bunch of "crap"! One example surely means that all is well. Ha.

I deal with this every day. It's frustrating to see the good people who work for our public land mgmt agancies like the USFS that have their hands tied from top down mgmt decisions and no funding.

[captain static]

The only "recreation area" closures that I know of on the former Stanton District were the removal of the Tarr Ridge & Rock Bridge picnic areas. The were noticed for public input in the Schedule of Proposed Actions (SOPA): http://www.fs.fed.us/sopa/components/re ... 07.html#32. You should also note the Red River Gorge Trailhed Improvement in this SOPA. This $90,000 project was financed by an earmark obtained by congressman Hal Rogers.

[pigsteak]

a visitor center that I bet not even 5% of climbers have ever visited, or even know where it is at....terrible location to draw in folks.

[ynot]

It's a good place to get cold water and cool off when it's summertime.

[pigsteak]

there ya go..should have built a McD's instead...could have had those things plus the best fries in the world.