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Next time you're at the cliff and some climber from out of state stays that the Red is just boring mindless jug hauls just calmly respond as follows...
"You're right, go home and tell all your friends."
Don't get upset, don't defend the area. This way the word will get out how bad this place is and then we'll have less people, less problems with access, and maybe some areas will open back up. Land owner tensions will be aleviated b/c less ungrateful out of state wankers will be here disrespecting the rock and land. Who knows maybe Miguel's will even return to a decent place to hang out after a day of climbing
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Sometimes change sucks.