POTENTIAL CLOSURE OF TORRENT FALLS CRAG

Post by **pigsteak** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:20 pm

elitist.

Post by **SikMonkey** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:27 pm

I'd pay $10 to climb at Torrent esp if there weren't 50 dirtbags there

I most certainly would as well as I think Torrent is more than worth it, but Mark said he didn't want to be running a climbing gym.

Mj

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:43 pm

yeah $10 is the going rate for a day use fee at climbing gyms...I'd pay it once or twice a year.

Post by **pigsteak** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:48 pm

you'd pay $10 bucks instead of just going to roadside?

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:52 pm

hell yeah! the routes at Torrent are a hundred times better than *most* routes at roadside. come on piggie you've been a local almost a year now and you still haven't learned these very basic understandings....geesh more to learn my little gumby.

Post by **Meadows** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:07 pm

rhunt wrote:geesh more to learn my little gumby.

You two are so cute.

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:01 pm

Post by **Don McGlone** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:37 pm

Sounds like a bad case of Incompetence and Indifference.

http://www.murple.com/media/adrianbelew ... erence.mp3

Post by **p0bray01** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:39 am

First of all to Rick Weber: My girlfriend and I visited Muir Valley on the 15th and completly fell in love with the area. We both appreciated the wonderful maintenance of the trails and the great signs! (as well as the nice climbers in the area!) Thanks! We will be back and be sure to leave the area the way we found it if not cleaner!

To Mark: Torrent falls was the first place I had ever climbed outside. It has many special memories for me and I can understand your feelings when people decide to be disrespectful. Enforce those guidelines. I think most climbers and hikers alike will stand behind you. Also I will encourage all my climbing friends to make generous donations as well as inform them of the new guidelines. We will do what it takes to keep a beautiful place like Torrent open.

Post by **wirednut** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:12 pm

I've posted the rules and excerpts from Mark's comments at my site.

Get the word out to your western friends--the Red is a destination area and getting the word out is key!