Reminds me of the days when climbing at Torrent had to be a stealth mission. Park at the Beer Trailer and walk. Paying usage fees is a small price if it ensures Torrent will remain open.
And thats my point, I don't stop to read the info or the map when I get there I have a guide book. And I cannot be the only person who just never knew I had to pay. Mom always seid I have a one track mind ....I am simply just trying to help.
How about a scarlet letter for those that don't put money in the "donation box". If more climbers were givers instead of takers we wouldn't even be having this conversation, would we? I like to think of it in these terms, we are either value added people or we are users, takers, and abusers. Every one of us that plays should "pay". There should be no free passes. Not for anyone!
So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing-- Zep
....I am simply just trying to help. 
