No kidding. Teaching is the most noble (not nobel) profession. My mom was a teacher, my Grandpa was a teacher, some of the most influential people over the course of my life were teachers and some of the people I currently respect and admire the most are teachers.
Can't say the same about my bosses, coworkers, doctors, or any other group of people I've encountered. I would definitely teach if I thought I were up to the task. Instead I hide in the professional world, I make a ton more money and work way less cause it's easier.
pigsteak wrote:... except that the republicans wanted school vouchers for everyone to attend the school of their choice, thereby creating competition, and allowing kids to attend the best schools...
as i understood it vouchers would not cover the entire cost of education in a new school, just what the state would have paid to have the student attend a public institution.
if you don't have money to even feed your kid going to school for free where in the heck are you going to find the extra money to send your kid to a "competitive" private school?
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There's also the question of where all these "schools of choice" would come from. I'd guess they'd be run by the same entrepreneurs that run our prisons, and we all know what a stellar job they're doing. Or better yet they'd be run by people like Pat Robertson, thereby assuring a good, rounded education, grounded in science and mathematics...
[size=75]You are as bad as Alan, and even he hits the mark sometimes. -charlie
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pigsteak wrote:woe is me you poor teaching saps....you only work 3/4 of a year, so your pay should be 75% of the working stiff that toils all year long. you get 12 weeks in the summer and a winter break....
yes, teaching is difficult but it isn't rocket science. it is more like being a homeroom monitor, mother and prison guard all wrapped up.
change careers if you don't like it.
and alan, you have it almost right. except that the republicans wanted school vouchers for everyone to attend the school of their choice, thereby creating competition, and allowing kids to attend the best schools. i know...i know...the poor innner schools will lose this game, making them worse than they were...but don't we want the crust to be scraped from the bottom?
I love my job. I'd never think of leaving it, and you should probably get a clue before posting stuff like this. One third of teachers leave after three years teaching for other jobs, because they can't handle the pay and student behaviors. Most of us stay because we know we're doing something important.
overhung wrote:Yes. We dwell in the crotch... that's why my health insurance costs me $650 a month out of pocket. We're definitely fleecing the taxpayers. Our lobbiests are doing a great job, that's probably, why we average a third of the pay of other professions with commensurate education levels.
That's wild, overhung. Why is it so high? Did they cut health insurance out of your benefits? That just seems absurd.
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Umm Yasi, that's just the way things are right now. IN the past few years, my co-workers wages have actually decreased because we do not receive a cost of living pay increase and our benefits have been cut. (as a state worker we have the same benefits as teachers except our retirement "promise" isn't as good).
Jesus only knows that she tries too hard. She's only trying to keep the sky from falling.
Well, parhaps my words were too harsh. Everyone speaks without engaging their brain once in awhile. I forgive thee piggie.
I'm with charlie on this one, only I do teach. Yes it is hard. But you know whoat, last weekend my kids went to a music contest. All of them worked very hard, did very well, and found the experience rewarding. I was glad to have worked so hard with them.
It's one of those professions that sometime you can go a day or a week or a month or a year thinking about quitting, all it takes is one great experience to change your mind.
While I dislike some parts of the job (discipline for unruly children), that is true of every job. But really, if you think of teaching as a job, it is only a matter of time before you run out of things to say.
Anyway piggie, I know that anytime I feel like a mother, prison gaurd, or whatever kind of nonsense you are talking about, It makes me want to walk out and not come back. You know what makes me feel that way? When I contact a parent of a child who is having trouble passing, and they have no respect for educators, or education. They think of teachers as glorified baby-sitters.
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