George W. Bush and the climbing community
I think $80G might be a decent wage to teach high school in this country. Otherwise I say fuck the little shits. Let 'em rot. The right wingers have figured it out anyway: lock everybody up that's stupid and make sure they'll stay there.
[size=75]You are as bad as Alan, and even he hits the mark sometimes. -charlie
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
Crankmas again...
nurses go on strike, won't happen, they don't have a union
Nurses around here start at around 45k for a full time RN, teachers with a Bachellors in ED, and a minor in Math start at around 32k, when they get they're
masters they may make 40k.
Let's do some algebra, if a nurse and a teacher start out with a high school diploma, and a 4 year degree and in 5 years one is making 60k and one is making 45k, which one should go on strike first???? I know this is apples and oranges, but it seems to be the course for this discussion. I appreciate and respect nurses, and they put up with alot of shit, literally, but I would be a male nurse before I would ever be a teacher. I can only speak from direct experience of a Cincinnati Ohio public school teacher, If you all are making so much in Ky, maybe I'll tell her to move and I can quit paying her so much money.
nurses go on strike, won't happen, they don't have a union
Nurses around here start at around 45k for a full time RN, teachers with a Bachellors in ED, and a minor in Math start at around 32k, when they get they're
masters they may make 40k.
Let's do some algebra, if a nurse and a teacher start out with a high school diploma, and a 4 year degree and in 5 years one is making 60k and one is making 45k, which one should go on strike first???? I know this is apples and oranges, but it seems to be the course for this discussion. I appreciate and respect nurses, and they put up with alot of shit, literally, but I would be a male nurse before I would ever be a teacher. I can only speak from direct experience of a Cincinnati Ohio public school teacher, If you all are making so much in Ky, maybe I'll tell her to move and I can quit paying her so much money.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.....
Close Overhung I just wish I were a teacher and I have nothing against them other than the special interest angle which in my feeble mind feeds the corruption and/or inefficiency of Ky state govt. Plus if I ever do become one I will have a healthy dose of self-hate that you know is kinda of cool in west coast angst sorta way.
I knewit!! You're a PRINCIPAL!!! Damn you!!!Crankmas wrote:Close Overhung I just wish I were a teacher and I have nothing against them other than the special interest angle which in my feeble mind feeds the corruption and/or inefficiency of Ky state govt. Plus if I ever do become one I will have a healthy dose of self-hate that you know is kinda of cool in west coast angst sorta way.
I've had just about enough of this shit.
woe is me you poor teaching saps....you only work 3/4 of a year, so your pay should be 75% of the working stiff that toils all year long. you get 12 weeks in the summer and a winter break....
yes, teaching is difficult but it isn't rocket science. it is more like being a homeroom monitor, mother and prison guard all wrapped up.
change careers if you don't like it.
and alan, you have it almost right. except that the republicans wanted school vouchers for everyone to attend the school of their choice, thereby creating competition, and allowing kids to attend the best schools. i know...i know...the poor innner schools will lose this game, making them worse than they were...but don't we want the crust to be scraped from the bottom?
yes, teaching is difficult but it isn't rocket science. it is more like being a homeroom monitor, mother and prison guard all wrapped up.
change careers if you don't like it.
and alan, you have it almost right. except that the republicans wanted school vouchers for everyone to attend the school of their choice, thereby creating competition, and allowing kids to attend the best schools. i know...i know...the poor innner schools will lose this game, making them worse than they were...but don't we want the crust to be scraped from the bottom?
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.