alien failure

Post by **Paul3eb** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:53 pm

there are a few numbers post in a new thread on rc.com by "mgear_pres" called "alien testing.." something. they give a few numbers.. but i'm a little skeptical about how true it is. i just emailed mgear.com to see if it's real or not. i'll let you know what i hear back. (by the way, there's nothing about it on mgear's site except for the fact aliens aren't for sale.. but they're backordered usually anyway so that's not too unusual)

Post by **knooper** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:00 pm

Actually, if you go to http://www.mountaingear.com/aliens/ you'll find the post that says the same thing as the post from mgear_pres. I can't figure out how to get there without typing the address in, but it's definitely there on their website.

As a bunch of people said in the rockclimbing.com thread, I'm going to reserve judgement on this issue until all the data becomes available. That said, I'm also not going to use my Aliens until more data becomes available. Hopefully they can narrow it down to specific lots / batches of cams with the issue.

Post by **TradMike** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:11 pm

I'm in denial. This sucks if true. Are all brazed cams in question now? Maybe their quality degraged, just this last year or so, when it has been hard for them to keep up with the orders.

Post by **Paul3eb** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:15 pm

knooper wrote:Actually, if you go to http://www.mountaingear.com/aliens/ you'll find the post that says the same thing as the post from mgear_pres. I can't figure out how to get there without typing the address in, but it's definitely there on their website.

sweet, thanks

Post by **Andrew** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:37 pm

Maybe Weber will want to destroy some aliens.

Post by **Saxman** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:51 pm

If this is true, it makes you wonder what their quality control department has been doing. Don't they destroy x number of units from each production run to test quality???

Post by **lordjim_2001** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:28 am

New news:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/topic/104853

Basically a reacal on aliens produced after Nov '04 and are "marked with a small center punch dimple at the base of the round ball where the axle goes through the cable eye."

What ever that means.

Post by **haas** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:28 am

a photo should be posted on CCH's website

www.aliencamsbycch.com

It is scary, but recalls happen all the time. I don't know why people are freaking out so much now. Maybe it is because CCH is so small and everyone raves about their gear. There is at least one recall on a climbing product every year, mostly with biners. I've whipped on my alien cams and will continue to use them. It is unfortunate though, and I do recommend checking your cams if you have any.

Post by **knooper** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:11 pm

It's good that they are going to replace all the cams, but any thoughts on how long it's going to take? I didn't see anywhere any estimates on how many cams they expect to replace, and based on the seemingly always sold-out condition of Aliens, I'm thinking that I won't get any defective cams back for several months.

Also, I think everyone is freaking out about this because of CCH's initial response, the popularity of Aliens, and the fact that they cost so much. Biners, nuts, etc are fairly cheap and easy to replace, but not so much with cams. I personally feel a lot better now that the recall is going to happen, and like you, haas, I'm going to keep using my non-recalled Aliens since I like them so much.