nutrition and performance

Post by **captain static** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:14 pm

How long have you been climbing DB? Have you ever read any of the books on training for climbing written by Eric Horst? While I wouldn't dispute that nutrition is important and I do use supplements I strongly believe that the type of training that you do is more important for improving at our sport.

Post by **durableboy** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:59 am

captain static wrote:How long have you been climbing DB? Have you ever read any of the books on training for climbing written by Eric Horst? While I wouldn't dispute that nutrition is important and I do use supplements I strongly believe that the type of training that you do is more important for improving at our sport.

haven't read anything by eric horst... did you apply what he wrote, and did it make a noticable difference in climbing ability...

there is not doubt, that sport specific training is in order for superior performance in one's chosen endeavor... but, to not get the right nutrtition in, while your putting in that time training, will leave you cheated of the maximum benefit...

i have a friend who picked up climbing not too long ago... he's an all around athlete... biking, running, alot of weight lifting... he is the most nutritionally sound individual i know... and he is a big proponent of supplementation... he's the first to admit he could maintain his state of fine condition without it... he picked up on good technique rather quickly when we introduce him to climing... but he is so strong, and his body fat is so low, he would pull moves with crappy technique that most good climbers couldn't get away with...

Post by **captain static** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:55 am

Coming from a competitive gymnastics background, Horst's books books have definitely given me focus. You might want to check out the reviews of his most recent book: http://www.trainingforclimbing.com/html ... iews.shtml

One nutritional recommendation I have followed is consuming complex carbs after a power workout for recovery. While Twinlabs Ultrafuel fulfills Horsts specifications to a tee for a post workout carb boost I have also been known to succomb to the Huber brothers "liquid training supplement" dark beer apres climbing

Post by **dhoyne** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:38 pm

I too am a big fan of the stout beer after a nice long day climbing. It's natural supplimentation.

Post by **durableboy** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:20 pm

captain static wrote:Coming from a competitive gymnastics background, Horst's books books have definitely given me focus. You might want to check out the reviews of his most recent book: http://www.trainingforclimbing.com/html ... iews.shtml

One nutritional recommendation I have followed is consuming complex carbs after a power workout for recovery. While Twinlabs Ultrafuel fulfills Horsts specifications to a tee for a post workout carb boost I have also been known to succomb to the Huber brothers "liquid training supplement" dark beer apres climbing

you are right.... there is an hour window after training, where you have time to replenish certain nutrients and realize huge training gains, very reduced recovery times, and recovery of glycogen stores much more quickly...

advocare has a product called 'post workout recovery' (the name says it all) this is the product that really gets all the athletes attention up front...

Post by **dhoyne** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:12 pm

Problem is, define end of workout for a climber. After each climb? End of the day (after the hike back, before the hike back, ?)?

Post by **alien2** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:50 pm

Used to work out 5 days a week for over an hour and a half each day for two years. Included the full gamut of training with a partner who pushed me every day. First year completely natural. Second year tried some of the different supplements. I noticed very little if any difference using any of the supplements.

Post by **durableboy** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:09 pm

alien2 wrote:Used to work out 5 days a week for over an hour and a half each day for two years. Included the full gamut of training with a partner who pushed me every day. First year completely natural. Second year tried some of the different supplements. I noticed very little if any difference using any of the supplements.

there is a wide range of quality and ingredients among supplements.... as well as a wide range of misinformation as to when to fuel the body with different types of nutrients if you do happen to get your hands on the proper nutrients.... no different than choosing what food to eat and when....

i don't take supplements to bulk up.... it seems as though people immediately think of bulk when the work supplement is used.... i think as a climber, i'm looking for the body composition of an olympic wrestler or gymnast.... i chose the nutrition i use because the olympic wrestling team has been prescribing to it for over 10 years now.... and they believe their nutrition helped them win the gold in '96....

Post by **durableboy** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:16 pm

captain static wrote:Coming from a competitive gymnastics background, Horst's books books have definitely given me focus. You might want to check out the reviews of his most recent book: http://www.trainingforclimbing.com/html ... iews.shtml

One nutritional recommendation I have followed is consuming complex carbs after a power workout for recovery. While Twinlabs Ultrafuel fulfills Horsts specifications to a tee for a post workout carb boost I have also been known to succomb to the Huber brothers "liquid training supplement" dark beer apres climbing

great recommendation on that website... i think it is informative and helpful... i think i may hang a pair of pump rocks in my office... almost time to start planning a few flights up there to climb...