"Closed Project" crack???

Post by **the lurkist** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:20 am

Wes,
Do you mean Refraction Error? I have been on that thing on TR. It is hard 5.13 all day long. Crack at the top stays wet.

Post by **Wes** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:26 am

Nope, there is a seriously steep crack under the actual arch that runs about half way. Maybe 50-70 feet of near roof crack climbing, all sorts of sizes.

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:26 am

No, he's talking about the fingercrack under the arch.

Post by **the lurkist** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:28 am

That sounds good. Stealth ascents are definitely highly illegal.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:50 am

Yeah, forgot about that one. I've looked at it pretty close...looks super cool.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:51 am

But Refraction Error too....good one Lurkist.

That thing looks sick.

Post by **ynp1** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:31 pm

rockman, hey i was just wondering why, if the bolt is optional, did you place it??? is that a new thing we do at the red??? i read the new climbing mag. and it had a artical on the red and i think it talks about two routes that are bolted cracks.... i dont think that is to cool, does anyone else think that is the wrong message being sent out to red climbers?

Post by **Wes** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:35 pm

Not all "cracks" take pro. And for this route, the bolt protects a face boulder problem with a really bad landing. So, it is optional, as long as you won't fall, just like every other bolt.

Post by **Danny** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:54 pm

God told me that if you put a bolt on a crack you should be flogged. That's what he said.

Post by **ynp1** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:12 pm

Wes, well then i guess you should just head-point the climb first. i dont think you should bring the route down to your level. he did say it was optional...

i do understand that not all cracks take pro. so in that case i guess you can bolt.