I did, but I already knew that several of them were Greg's routes...Christian wrote:Meadows, okay,okay but other than you. who would take the time do do such a thing....?
Announcement: Temporary Route Closures in Muir
Yeah, Wes, but other than you and meadows ......Wes wrote:I did, but I already knew that several of them were Greg's routes...Christian wrote:Meadows, okay,okay but other than you. who would take the time do do such a thing....?
I try to be a good man but all that comes
of trying is I feel more guilty.
Ikkyu
of trying is I feel more guilty.
Ikkyu
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I too was at the Solarium this past Sat. Two bolts did come totally out under gentle finger pressure. Both were close to the ground. They did not come out under a fall (Thankfully), but could have. The hole for the 12d 3rd bolt was beyond salvage with a 3/4 in hole.
So, there are two problems. Bolts coming out, probably from lack of tightening when put in, and holes wollowed out to much, possibly due to using a weak drill that allowed excessive movement when the hole was drilled.
Two factors that independently make the bolt placements fundementally not trust worthy. I certainly understand the need for Team Muir to drop back and reassess any route that might have these qualities.
I too would be defensive if this happened to me. It is an indictment of one's technical abilty. Sorry... It has to be done.
So, there are two problems. Bolts coming out, probably from lack of tightening when put in, and holes wollowed out to much, possibly due to using a weak drill that allowed excessive movement when the hole was drilled.
Two factors that independently make the bolt placements fundementally not trust worthy. I certainly understand the need for Team Muir to drop back and reassess any route that might have these qualities.
I too would be defensive if this happened to me. It is an indictment of one's technical abilty. Sorry... It has to be done.
"It really is all good ! My thinking only occasionally calls it differently..."
Normie
Normie
Ditto.meetVA wrote:bryan i didn't read rick's post that way either.
although by both posts one can see that the poster's feelings have been hurt.
i just hope time heals and we can all get back to what it is about. climbing.
Jesus only knows that she tries too hard. She's only trying to keep the sky from falling.
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