Isn't this poll a little biased. In the poll it says the red is good, but what about the New. Maybe it should be the good old new, and the good old red. I think you have been researching how to do polls from the people who do the polls for Fox News. Just kiddin.
ive climbed at both and i would say the red hands down the new is very sandbagged atleast where ive climbed or maybe im just a wuss and like all the 10d jug halls instead of really technical vertical face climbing we should be plugging gear not clipping bolts anyway
well, i've climbed at the new a lot more than the red (until recently), and i'd have to say that this is one of the toughest questions to answer. they are both really different styles, and they are both really, really good. the new has a huge variety of styles, more so than the red. but....since this is the RED board, i'll vote accordingly.
