Soul Ram
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Harder than OJ by a damn site. Not as hard as OOAL. That thing is old school 12d. I heard of a Porter route over in the NRG that is similar- Libertine. I hear that it is classic 4 star 12d. I think of that and OOAL as the technical vert 12+ standard bearer.
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Normie
Normie
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I don't know. I bet not. He did it right before he moved over here the early 90's. I am guessing he had real hangers on it. I heard from Russ Clune (who repeated it not long after it was done) and someone else (in Fayetteville) that it has seen very few repeats- which makes me compare it to OOAL - done about the same time and the same grade and both dead vert. I saw a picture of PJ on it back then in one of the Mags. He was enpointe - that is, very tips on toes on unseeable holds and fingers pimping on viscious micro crimps, elbows all tweaked out in the pumped elbow flare. The thing looked sick.
Speaking of rarely repeated routes, I also heard his "Get thee Behind me Satan" has rarely been repeated. It is right next to a Doug Reed 13b (?name). Both close to Libertine and Quinsana.
Maybe I am smackng my meat a bit here, but I think the standard those guys set was really high. Another like route is Doug Reed's "Fair Hope" at Rumbling Bald up at the hanging chain wall. 13b, maybe repeated 2-3 times.
Speaking of rarely repeated routes, I also heard his "Get thee Behind me Satan" has rarely been repeated. It is right next to a Doug Reed 13b (?name). Both close to Libertine and Quinsana.
Maybe I am smackng my meat a bit here, but I think the standard those guys set was really high. Another like route is Doug Reed's "Fair Hope" at Rumbling Bald up at the hanging chain wall. 13b, maybe repeated 2-3 times.
"It really is all good ! My thinking only occasionally calls it differently..."
Normie
Normie