Have you heard?

Post by **Sunshine** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:10 pm

On two occasions now I have heard non locals, by non local I mean people from out west who usually climb on limestone or granite, after grabbing one of our nicely natural holds, declare that it is a manufactured hold. I explain to them how our sandstone, unlike their limestone and granite, leaves a sandy mess when disturbed. I still get the feeling that they don't believe our pockets can be so user friendly (read Bill Ramsey's foreword to Ray's guide).
To satisfy the readers curiosity, the routes were Stay the Hand, (the far right pocket people usually use to start the crux) and Gung HO for which I don't recall which manufactured hold. If anyone else has heard such rantings please post the info here so we can compile a data base.

Post by **Paul3eb** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:20 pm

i heard you drilled out all those holds on sunshine and moonbeam.. are you trying to say that's not true?

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:40 pm

The eyebrow pockets on Happy Trails seem a little "comfortized". Amazing what a nut tool can do.

Post by **Sunshine** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:45 pm

The only cleaning I did on Happy Trails was with a nylon brush. Those are some cool pockets. Finger locks in pockets. Cool!

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:57 pm

I know man, I was just messing with you. It reminded me of Dough Belly....the line that had similiar pockets but were extremely comfortized by John! Happy Trails rocks though. Caught me off guard at 5.10b. I was pumping.

Post by **Sunshine** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:06 pm

Not your typical RRGMJH.

Post by **Ascentionist** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:44 pm

I think most of our cracks were created with a masonry saw in the 70s. But those pockets are natural!

Post by **allah** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:46 am

I wont get in on this