Yea, Scissors is pretty tame. The book lists it as 5.12c because the original start was a traverse. I guess the huge jugs weren't there at the time.
Skin Flute 5.12b? I'm not sure. When I did it I think it was 5.12a but since that a couple of major holds have busted off. Bberlier said he thought it may be 5.12b now as did some others who have done it since. So, I'd say chances are it is 5.12b now.
If you really want to climb Scissors look for the old bolt hole below and to the left of the first bolt. Start that sucker from there, instead of on the jugs. That shit ain't easy. Also If your thinkin Ro is "12a" check out tic tac toe for what a 12a on that wall is like.
I knew Ro wasn't a 12a. I have already been briefed on what a "consensus" 12a is by a friend of mine. Is Tic Tac Toe pretty hard? Is it pumpy or is there just a bitch ass move in the middle of it? Oh yeah, are the falls clean on Scissors and Tic Tac?
Mj
...quitting drinking is kinda like washing your hands after you take a crap...why start now?
Joel, if you limit your thinking to "I can't do 5.12", then you will be right. Recognize that you have good and bad days, that ratings are arbitrary at best, that you have special attributes that will match well with some routes, and poorly with others, and that climbing has a tremendous mental aspect to it. Don't worry about whether Ro is a 12, just focus on having fun while climbing it.
