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Post by **Sunshine** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:48 pm

Would you do a really cool 5.11 if you had to stick the first bolt and aid up to it to begin the route?

Post by **Lateralus** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:54 pm

Sure would at most places but at the Red I'd have to say it better be one helluva line considering the company it would keep. Ever been to the killer cave in Lander, lot of the routes are A0 starts. There is a no starts wall at City of Rocks as the bottom 20 feet or so have no holds but after that the climbing is really good.

Post by **One-Fall** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:03 pm

Sunshine, don't forget there is precedence for doing that. There is that climb to the right of Nolo Contendere at Sky Bridge, Forty Ounces of Justice at the Lode (because of rotten rock, not hard moves), DaisyChain at Military (again, less than perfect rock).

Post by **Danny** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:18 pm

like oil crack

Post by KD » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:46 pm

most certainly

Post by **Paul3eb** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:35 pm

it'd have to be really good and get a lot of talk from people i know that have good taste in routes. with so many good lines in the red in the .11 and .12 range, it would have to take a lot to convince me.

Post by **chriss** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:37 pm

Definitely!

Post by **pawilkes** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:38 pm

ya'll seem lazy, its not that hard to jug up for 10-15 feet. i do it sunshine, especially if you say its good, you know your stuff

Post by **Paul3eb** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:54 pm

it's not a matter of laziness.. it's a matter of preference. personally, i prefer to get a climb from the ground up.

like you: it's not that you don't like women, it's just that you prefer to sleep with men.

Post by **Toad** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:28 am

Why not just chip some holds or glue on some edges to make it go from the ground up?