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Christian
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Post by Christian »

SikMonkey wrote:It's a gift I suppose. One cannot just be "sik", one has to embrace "sik".....the rub your boobs on me....:D

Mj
Dude?! I don't have boobs. get away from me you sikfuk! :shock:
I try to be a good man but all that comes
of trying is I feel more guilty.
Ikkyu
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Post by captain static »

Also in 1963, Petzoldt helped establish the first American Outward Bound program in Colorado.
(Source: http://www.nols.edu/about/history/paul_petzoldt.shtml) Here is the information on the Outward Bound program for at-risk youth: http://www.outwardbound.com/discovery.html
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JB
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Post by JB »

I have worked some with at-risk or adjudicated youth in an "adventure" setting. While I have never used rock-climbing per say, I have used a ropes course that includes a climbing tower. My impression was that it will be beneficial for some, but not for others. How's that for vague?

Kurt Hahn started Outward Bound, Petzoldt is primarily associated with NOLS of course, which he founded. Outward Bound was not his baby.

I can tell you that the perceived risk of climbing does seem to calm these kids down: "I have to do this? This looks scary! I talk big, but others might see me eat my words."

It also seems to make them pay more attention to authority: "I hate this dumbass hippy instructor, but she seems to know what she's doing. If I am to do this without getting hurt, I probably should listen a little better and be nice to her."

And it can be a real good boost to their actual self confidence, making them more prepared to actually succeed at life: "I climbed that damn thing. It was the hardest and scariest thing I've ever done! I AM a badass."

So looking at this you can see where these issues could be good for the kid or bad for the kid. The key to a successful program is someone running it who can properly help them to process the experience and turn their successes and failures into a positive learning environment. It doesn't always work that way. Not all programs are created equal. My experience has been great for the most part, but i would argue with those who thing this is a cure for all.
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Christian
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Post by Christian »

Thanks you guys.
I try to be a good man but all that comes
of trying is I feel more guilty.
Ikkyu
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