Help us .....please

[RogueIT]

If Joost is still reading this thread he may have formed the opinion that kentucky people have Attention deficit disorder or as the french say Désordre de déficit d'attention or like my mom called it..."what the hell is wrong with you?"

[Ultra]

if you are afraid to lead, you can always "stick aid" up a route with a stick clip. Its an easy way to hang a rope without getting on the sharp end.