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In the best of conditions human waste will take a long time to decompose. It won't break down if it's ON the surface (or under a rock). Furthermore, the bacteria, parasites and viruses that are in the poop will not break down. So for example, if someone has pin-worms (a human worm) or e-coli and the...

This sounds like great news.

I have one question though - what happens if FOMV doesn't reach the $200,000 goal? Where does the money go? Who would be in chare of Muir Valley then? Hopefully this is not an issue, but $200000 is a lot of money in 1 year!

I don't really climb much anymore, but my husband needs a new climbing pack for Christmas. He wants a pack that will hold his trad gear but won't rip & is light weight. I dont know the latest and greatest stiff anymore? Suggestions?

so beth doesn't like our routes, eh?